Episode 39
Has Australia become Authoritaria?
Vinay Kolhatkar joins us to discuss the latest ‘bad’ news from Australia , among other similar topics.
Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services:
- 2021 Index of Economic Freedom - The Heritage Foundation
- Two centuries of law guide legal approach to modern pandemic - American Bar Association
- How much authority do state and local officials have during a health emergency, such as the COVID-19 pandemic?
- Treatment for COVID-19 using Methylene Blue - Dr. Deepak Golwalkar
- Suspended Texas doctor who promoted ivermectin as Covid treatment resigns from hospital - NBC News
- Need for vaccine aspiration confirmed, why is this not being done - Dr. John Campbell
- Physicist David Harriman on the Savvy Street Show discussing conspiracy hypotheses, the 2020 presidential election, and the Deep State with Vinay Kolhatkar.
- The Dish (film)
Episode 39 (47 minutes) was recorded at 9 : 30 PM CET, on December 3, 2021, with Ringr app.. Editing and post-production was done with the podcast maker, Alitu. Transcript is provided by Veed.io.
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Transcript
This is the Secular Foxhole podcast.
Speaker:Today, Martin and I have a returning guest.
Speaker:Vinay Kolhatkar is an Australian freelance
Speaker:journalist, novelist, screenwriter, and finance professional.
Speaker:He is the chief editor of
Speaker:the Savvy Street in public intellectual
Speaker:eazine committed to Liberty and individualism.
Speaker:Vinay has authored a TV pilot, screenplay, Undercover,
Speaker:The Story of Jamila, and two cinematic thrillers,
Speaker:A Sharia London and The Frankenstein Candidate.
Speaker:He is also the co author of Media The
Speaker:Battle to Shape Our Minds, which delves into how
Speaker:and why fascism is taking over the west.
Speaker:And probably a good segue into what has happened in
Speaker:Australia and New Zealand over the last 90 days.
Speaker:I think it's just been your lockdowns have been
Speaker:lifted, but we saw some horror stories there.
Speaker:Vinay, can you delve into some of those? Sure, we can.
Speaker:Thanks for having me again. You're welcome.
Speaker:Good afternoon to you, Blair.
Speaker:And good evening to Martin. Good morning.
Speaker:Three different things I know.
Speaker:Is that morning for you? Yeah.
Speaker:Between 738 in the morning on Saturdays, we're
Speaker:almost always a day ahead of that's, right.
Speaker:Everyone else in night in Sweden and late afternoon.
Speaker:So when it comes to Australia, I was
Speaker:going to write this article, which I was
Speaker:going to call is Australia becoming authoritarian?
Speaker:And I was going to answer that in the affirmative.
Speaker:And I would still except for one thing
Speaker:that kind of I thought about yesterday.
Speaker:In fact, as I began to call, we should
Speaker:present this because there has been quite a lot
Speaker:of very selective presentation even by the right wing
Speaker:media on this issue of lockdowns.
Speaker:So, yes, the short answer is the entire world
Speaker:has moved towards China in the last two years.
Speaker:So officially, 1 December 2019 was the
Speaker:first time somebody presented in a Chinese
Speaker:hospital with Govin like symptoms.
Speaker:The Hong Kong based South China Morning Post
Speaker:says, no, this was a lot earlier.
Speaker:According to them, it happened in November.
Speaker:But we sort of two years into
Speaker:the pandemic and pretty much every country
Speaker:on Earth has become more totalitarian.
Speaker:And going towards the distance between
Speaker:the west and China is decreasing.
Speaker:And I wish it was China moving towards
Speaker:the west, but it's the other way around.
Speaker:So every state, every nation state
Speaker:has to become more authoritarian.
Speaker:And there has been some very specific
Speaker:problems in Australia and New Zealand.
Speaker:And what I want to stress is
Speaker:the foundation rather than the visuals.
Speaker:Okay, so in the American media, I believe
Speaker:you're getting visuals, YouTube videos, people protesting and
Speaker:they've been beaten up by the riot police.
Speaker:Are they being charged by
Speaker:police unmounted horses or batons?
Speaker:And they are getting hurt.
Speaker:They are getting fined heavily.
Speaker:And yes, that's all true, but a selective and it's
Speaker:true also in a lot of protests in Europe as
Speaker:well as I believe I've seen some videos of that.
Speaker:And no doubt there have been some protests and there
Speaker:have been a lot of riots in fact, in the
Speaker:United States, some of them are unrelated to the pandemic.
Speaker:Correct.
Speaker:So the primary defect in Australia, I'll stick to Australia
Speaker:for the time being is that we are the only
Speaker:Liberal democracy in the world who doesn't have anything resembling
Speaker:a bill of rights or a charter of what they
Speaker:call a charter of human rights.
Speaker:So the United States obviously does
Speaker:have a bill of rights.
Speaker:So does Canada in the UK, New Zealand, even
Speaker:I believe Singapore, even India and Iraq and even
Speaker:Iraq and Turkey included in that list.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And I interrupt you, you don't have any link
Speaker:because you have heritage to United Kingdom and the
Speaker:British Empire with Magna Shorta or something like that.
Speaker:Yes, the Magna Carta is definitely a link.
Speaker:And the Australian Constitution guarantees are basically five rights,
Speaker:and that includes the right to vote, the right
Speaker:to a trial by jury, which I think is
Speaker:not present in some of the Asian countries like
Speaker:India, the right to not suffer religious discrimination or
Speaker:rather freedom of religion, and the right to not
Speaker:suffer discrimination by the origin of state, because Australia
Speaker:also is a Federalist nation state like the United
Speaker:States and Canada.
Speaker:But there is no freedom of speech.
Speaker:And also, sorry, there is a right to prop.
Speaker:The fifth one is a right to property compensation.
Speaker:So you don't have the right to prevent
Speaker:your property being acquired by the Crown.
Speaker:But should the Crown acquire it,
Speaker:they must give you just compensation.
Speaker:Big defect.
Speaker:But what we have seen over the last two
Speaker:years and as we said, authoritarianism has increased.
Speaker:And the reason for that is a defect
Speaker:that is present across the entire Western world.
Speaker:And let's come to that now, which is why my
Speaker:answer is in the affirmative for all of the west.
Speaker:So what we don't have in the UK and
Speaker:New Zealand, but what we have in the US,
Speaker:Canada, Australia, India is a federal nation state.
Speaker:So Federation of States have got together.
Speaker:And in India, it's kind of a strange animal
Speaker:because the Union dominates the States, but not so
Speaker:in Australia and the United States and Canada, normally
Speaker:always rather than normally the libertarians rejoice in Federalism,
Speaker:they say, oh, good to have decentralization.
Speaker:But let's go to the United States.
Speaker:Now, one of the problems we have is
Speaker:that the States have certain rights, includes emergency
Speaker:powers to prevent the spread of infectious diseases.
Speaker:And I believe that's enshrined in the 10th Amendment to
Speaker:the US Constitution, as well as what the American Bar
Speaker:Association says is 200 years of legal precedents.
Speaker:So they site this 19 or two case, which
Speaker:is more than 100 years ago in Louisiana.
Speaker:So it was the Port of New
Speaker:Orleans which was infected with disease.
Speaker:And instead of putting a positive obligation on the Port,
Speaker:which would be rational to have a play car or
Speaker:a board up there saying beware, don't come here.
Speaker:This is invested with whatever it is, asking them
Speaker:to put out an order and letting the free,
Speaker:healthy people choose whether they still want to take
Speaker:the risk of working at the Port in New
Speaker:Orleans, visiting it, or going there as a tourist.
Speaker:The state put an obligation on healthy
Speaker:people, preventing them from entering the Port,
Speaker:and the Louisiana Supreme Court upheld that.
Speaker:So we've had 200 years of precedent where the
Speaker:States can exercise emergency powers to prevent all sorts
Speaker:of movement rights to work, the rights we take
Speaker:for granted, and they may be even enshrined in
Speaker:some way in the Constitution.
Speaker:And that's what has allowed a lot of European
Speaker:States and even the United States to have all
Speaker:sorts of mandates, lockdowns, businesses, closures, vaccination mandates, the
Speaker:mandate to wear masks when inside and even outside,
Speaker:and two square meter rules, all sorts of things
Speaker:which have happened here as well.
Speaker:And most recently, the state of Victoria passed a bill
Speaker:to become law, which is called the Pandemic Bill.
Speaker:And these state powers were vested in the
Speaker:chief health officer and they're being transferred to
Speaker:the Premier, which is by the governor.
Speaker:People think that's incredibly unfortunate.
Speaker:And there were a lot of protest against that, too.
Speaker:But in sort of my thinking, it's neither here
Speaker:nor there, because the sort of argument was that
Speaker:the politicians shouldn't have that much power.
Speaker:Of course they shouldn't.
Speaker:Neither should anyone designated as the chief
Speaker:health officer, which is worse, kind of
Speaker:because it's an unelected bureaucrat.
Speaker:And we know that the so called chief
Speaker:health officers are anything but independent anyway, them
Speaker:having that power, what's kind of worse?
Speaker:Because the politicians, the governors, the Premier's
Speaker:hid behind the officer's skirts and they
Speaker:said, oh, no, but it's not us.
Speaker:That's the advice we're getting.
Speaker:And that's why we're introducing a lockdown
Speaker:or mask mandate or vaccination mandate.
Speaker:So we have this situation where virtually the entire
Speaker:West, I would say this is the reason is
Speaker:at risk because we have enshrined that law, the
Speaker:power to prevent infectious diseases located in emergency powers,
Speaker:and it's being exercised to a degree which has
Speaker:never been the case before, and especially it is
Speaker:being exercised against the disease, which arguably, with Omicron
Speaker:is getting perhaps more infectious but less deadly.
Speaker:A lot of coronaviruses have ended
Speaker:up causing only a common cold.
Speaker:So we had a lot better solutions than
Speaker:what has been actually imposed on us. Agreed?
Speaker:Yeah, it's the same here in the States.
Speaker:I mean, the media is absolutely one sided in
Speaker:favor of whatever the President or the governor's hear
Speaker:say to do, and they always extend the emergency
Speaker:powers of the governors for each state.
Speaker:I think there's only, like two States that
Speaker:have not extended those kind of emergency powers.
Speaker:The way you describe it, as
Speaker:everyone's lurking on moving towards China
Speaker:instead of China moving towards freedom.
Speaker:That's a perfect summary.
Speaker:Hopefully that trend can be reversed,
Speaker:but it's only through ideas.
Speaker:And when you have the media and right
Speaker:now, I guess big tech all on board.
Speaker:Indeed, you have a big sort of crony
Speaker:nest and what we call the deep state,
Speaker:a bunch of unelectric bureaucrats, the intelligence agencies,
Speaker:a whole range of associations.
Speaker:For instance, there's a joint release by the
Speaker:American Medical Association, the American Pharmacist Association in
Speaker:the American Society of Health Systems Pharmacists.
Speaker:And that condemns Ivory acting as a possible
Speaker:remedy for COVID or as a prophylactic.
Speaker:And in general, the establishment everywhere has been
Speaker:not in support of any alternate treatments.
Speaker:And I noticed there was a news in NBC that Dr.
Speaker:Mary bowed and she's in ENT, Houston Methodist
Speaker:Hospital was suspended because on her social media
Speaker:account, she touted as I would make potential
Speaker:therapeutic use against COLVID and NBC.
Speaker:When they reported it, they put her
Speaker:in the same box as Dr.
Speaker:Sue Macintosh, who lost her medical
Speaker:license because of faking vaccination certificates.
Speaker:Those two things are entirely different.
Speaker:One is you are doing fakery, maybe for the
Speaker:right reasons, but that's a completely different thing.
Speaker:A fraud is completely different
Speaker:to expressing a medical opinion.
Speaker:And we have a big problem here in Australia
Speaker:where the equivalent of the FDA is called TGA,
Speaker:the Therapeutics Administration and some doctors say they have
Speaker:been issuing directives is the word they use.
Speaker:So if you ask me, they should have no
Speaker:right to even provide guidance unless asked for.
Speaker:And the equivalent of the Mdn CDC in
Speaker:Australia has done everything it can to prevent
Speaker:the doctor patient relationship in respect of COVID
Speaker:from working normally and in variety of States.
Speaker:In the United States, also in European nation States,
Speaker:it's been the same thing has been happening is
Speaker:my belief in Sweden used to be touted Martin
Speaker:as the exception to the lockdown rules.
Speaker:But I don't know where they are.
Speaker:Like, can you go to a doctor and you and
Speaker:your doctor decide what treatment you should have or if
Speaker:someone comes down with covert it's only the state decides
Speaker:you get no treatment for several days.
Speaker:You're isolated at home and then if you're hospitalized,
Speaker:they decide they do with you in the hospital.
Speaker:It's not so strict and Blair and I have discussed it.
Speaker:But if you know that you have some kind of
Speaker:disease that could be deadly or could affect others, then
Speaker:you should take care of that, I think.
Speaker:But I think we should prevent it in different ways
Speaker:and also have a free information flow of information.
Speaker:So in a way I like how so
Speaker:called they have handled here in Sweden.
Speaker:But as you say, they are hiding behind the skirts.
Speaker:So this agency, when it went well, so to speak, they
Speaker:could talk and have a Press conference and so on.
Speaker:But when they start seeing a pattern and then we
Speaker:were not so popular anymore and when politicians did new
Speaker:things, but we have never had a real lockdown but
Speaker:in September they said everything is free.
Speaker:So now you could have party now
Speaker:you could have big events, gatherings, whatever. Yeah.
Speaker:And what happened then of course, and
Speaker:now we see this new version.
Speaker:So it's going back and forth the
Speaker:whole time but we don't have any.
Speaker:You have to wear mask and whatnot.
Speaker:But it's still these distances
Speaker:and other things like that.
Speaker:So that's relatively mild or social distancing to square
Speaker:four square meter rules and stuff like that.
Speaker:It's hard to administer and monitor anyway. Yeah.
Speaker:But again I think we should focus on
Speaker:I said we don't want to be conspiracy
Speaker:theories here but you said this about China.
Speaker:I read in Deutsche Valley I think it
Speaker:was early on about Wuhan, about the bats.
Speaker:And now I saw on a documentary like a science here
Speaker:on the telly they talked about how the bats was transferred
Speaker:to some animal event, to the people, to humans and also
Speaker:coffee in different variations have been during the history but it
Speaker:has been very silenced in a way and that's why I
Speaker:wonder so we should talk more about that, learn from what's
Speaker:happened there in Wuhan in China and also protect us for
Speaker:the future and also but also see the risks of course,
Speaker:but don't take the chance that it will be the big
Speaker:brother and the long run because think about all the businesses
Speaker:that have lost lots of money over with and other things
Speaker:like that.
Speaker:But you shouldn't do dangerous things
Speaker:and you shouldn't do stupid things.
Speaker:That's the thing here in Sweden and I've been
Speaker:there but now we said in September, now it's
Speaker:free to meet and have gatherings, big gatherings.
Speaker:And then what happened?
Speaker:Then it peaked again and I think in a way
Speaker:we have to live with it for rest for a
Speaker:long foreseen future and maybe we'll learn something from it.
Speaker:But I don't like the demands and I don't like
Speaker:how all the trust, so to speak in this agency
Speaker:with the bureaucrats and definitely not see how the politicians
Speaker:see their chance to really lock down.
Speaker:But on the other hand I'm happy
Speaker:that we haven't locked down totally.
Speaker:Personally I would say that that's not a good idea.
Speaker:And right now before we start recording, I
Speaker:saw on John Galt line the Facebook group
Speaker:there it was some British I think journalists
Speaker:that have interviewed somebody in Australia, a private
Speaker:individual that had a negative test.
Speaker:But she was set in not house arrested.
Speaker:It was more like a camp and then she was fine.
Speaker:She could be fined lots of money if she walked outside.
Speaker:And I thought that was horrendous and very scary.
Speaker:The fines here are quite horrendous.
Speaker:I think we probably lead the world
Speaker:on finds that are just astronomical.
Speaker:But here like in Sweden with lots
Speaker:of language to get the information out.
Speaker:They saw in different areas that the information was not
Speaker:going out about COVID and how you could protect yourself
Speaker:and about the vaccine and other things like that.
Speaker:We should talk about the vaccines and the protections
Speaker:they offer and fair bit of research here.
Speaker:And I wanted to draw a parallel with
Speaker:this index that the Heritage Foundation publishes, and
Speaker:it's quite famous around the world, has been
Speaker:happening for quite a number of years.
Speaker:It's called Index of Economic Freedom, and they
Speaker:judge nation States by your freedom to work,
Speaker:produce, consume, invest free flow of labor, capital,
Speaker:goods and the affirmation of property rights.
Speaker:Now, Hong Kong rates number one, but
Speaker:that doesn't count as a nation.
Speaker:So in the nation ranking, Singapore's number one, New
Speaker:Zealand number two in Australia number three, what surprised
Speaker:me is in 2021, it's still New Zealand number
Speaker:two and Australia number three, United States is 20
Speaker:at the United Kingdom is seven, China is 107
Speaker:in, India is 121 now.
Speaker:And a lot of the Southern American countries on
Speaker:the continent are down in the three figures. Okay.
Speaker:But I wonder if we could compute an index of
Speaker:medical freedom and the whole thing would be reversed.
Speaker:And by that, I mean, yes, you should
Speaker:be able to offer a vaccine without going
Speaker:through a five year process, but it should
Speaker:be based on free consent and full information.
Speaker:You should pay for it in one way or another.
Speaker:Also, sure, it shouldn't be free.
Speaker:It should not be pushed down the
Speaker:road, and you should be able to
Speaker:consult the medical professionals of your choice.
Speaker:Now, we have heard often talked about
Speaker:Ivomectin, which is but there's also the
Speaker:theory that HDR two vapors help.
Speaker:There is a pulmonologist in India who has
Speaker:been getting phenomenal results with an alternative treatment
Speaker:that has made it into the journals, but
Speaker:it's simply not being publicized to that extent.
Speaker:And again, it's a drug that's
Speaker:been around for over 100 years.
Speaker:So these treatments people should be able to access.
Speaker:And with vaccines, there was a denial of the
Speaker:after effects that were occurring and the vaccine ended
Speaker:up becoming like a reverse lot free.
Speaker:So in a normal lottery, it's like everybody spends $5
Speaker:and somebody wins a million dollars and we don't criticize
Speaker:or envy the person who wins a million dollars.
Speaker:We don't miss $5 when we lose them.
Speaker:But if it was reversed, if it was like somebody
Speaker:becomes bankrupt and loses a million dollars, but everybody gains
Speaker:$5 and that would be a reverse lottery.
Speaker:So everybody who has taken a vaccine, I
Speaker:believe is now excluding perhaps Omicron has much
Speaker:better immunity in terms of hospitalization rates and
Speaker:death rates are less among the vaccinated.
Speaker:But there were some who died.
Speaker:Lisa Shaw, the BBC presenter, died.
Speaker:There were people who got myocarditis pericarditis
Speaker:heart inflammation among the young, there were
Speaker:women whose periods have changed simply after
Speaker:the first dose of the vaccine.
Speaker:And those are highly frequent cases.
Speaker:And there was this breakthrough, which was the
Speaker:entire world media, except again, the South Korea
Speaker:Herald and the Times of India.
Speaker:The entire world has been silent on that
Speaker:because all the vaccine manufacturers said that the
Speaker:injection should be given in the muscle.
Speaker:So it's in the del priority muscle.
Speaker:Typically it's a large muscle with very
Speaker:low risk of hitting a blood vessel.
Speaker:But what doctors and nurses are trained to do
Speaker:is to aspirate before vaccinate when the recommendation is
Speaker:for the vaccine to be given in the muscle.
Speaker:And that means when they inject, when they
Speaker:insert the needle, they pull it back and
Speaker:check if there is any blood coming.
Speaker:If there is a blood vessel, they'll pull
Speaker:it out, discard the needle, start again.
Speaker:And that happens fairly rarely.
Speaker:That when they're aspirating they discover
Speaker:that they hit a blood vessel.
Speaker:But if they don't, aspirate they would never know
Speaker:if they've hit a blood vessel or not.
Speaker:And unfortunately, across all of these vaccination centers, Aspiration
Speaker:simply hasn't been asked for because they say, oh,
Speaker:it's highly unlikely, there are no major blood vessels,
Speaker:but highly unlikely is simply not good enough because
Speaker:these vaccines are very different.
Speaker:Both the Edenovirus AstraZenica vaccine and the
Speaker:mRNA vaccines like modern and FISA, essentially
Speaker:instruct your body to make spike protein.
Speaker:So they're making a key element of the disease rather
Speaker:than replicating the disease by giving you a weak virus
Speaker:or an attenuated virus or a dead virus.
Speaker:So the body then makes spike proteins and
Speaker:then the body makes antibodies against the spike
Speaker:protein which help against hospitalization and death if
Speaker:you get the real spike protein into you.
Speaker:And that comes with other things.
Speaker:So that the other problem with the vaccines is
Speaker:the efficacy starts to drop after six months.
Speaker:If you inject in a blood vessel, then
Speaker:the instructions are traveling across the body as
Speaker:against, localized primarily in the deltoid muscle where
Speaker:the spike protein happens, the antibodies happen and
Speaker:then the antibodies travel around the body.
Speaker:Only the antibodies of the travel, not instructions to
Speaker:make spike protein shouldn't go all over the place.
Speaker:So there is a study done on rats where two
Speaker:groups and a bunch of rats were injected deliberately into
Speaker:the way the same sort of Pfizer and whatever it
Speaker:might have been the enovirus estrogenica vaccine.
Speaker:And then a bunch of rats were
Speaker:given the vaccine in the muscle.
Speaker:So there were some cases
Speaker:of heart inflammation developed.
Speaker:So it was the mRNA vaccine.
Speaker:Heart inflammation did develop in the rats
Speaker:exclusively in the group that was given
Speaker:the IV intravenously, the injection intravenously.
Speaker:So we may have a situation where the vaccines have
Speaker:been blamed a little bit unfairly, but then there has
Speaker:been negligence on the part of the administration and they
Speaker:don't want to admit to that negligence.
Speaker:So they just simply suppressing this whole idea,
Speaker:which is incredibly bad because some people have
Speaker:suffered a lot and this is where the
Speaker:index of medical freedom comes in.
Speaker:You should be able to go to your doctor of
Speaker:your choice which is what I did when you're taking
Speaker:a vaccine and make sure that he asked for it
Speaker:before he vaccined it I made sure I got that
Speaker:for myself, my wife and my family and then we
Speaker:didn't suffer any horrendous after effects but that seems to
Speaker:be happening strangely enough, in the third world there's a
Speaker:combination of things maybe losing our freedoms in the third
Speaker:world you can walk into a surgeon and get into
Speaker:a specialist or a physician and get prescribed I will
Speaker:make and it was widely prescribed by the state government
Speaker:Ultra Pradesh but the state of arrest has suddenly introduced
Speaker:a travel restriction on a bunch of countries including the
Speaker:whole of the EU because of Omega and surprisingly the
Speaker:central government there as well as even the who in
Speaker:the United Nations have been criticizing the travel bans because
Speaker:they say they are unfair we ought to distribute the
Speaker:disease fairly and this is where Australia becomes quite an
Speaker:interesting case because let's look at the statistics now the
Speaker:world debts around 5,000,260.
Speaker:3 million cases now let's compare the debts per million
Speaker:average is 663 the United States is above that 2000
Speaker:and 389 the United Kingdom's 2000 and 134 New Zealand
Speaker:is 44 Australia 78 so pretty much at the other
Speaker:end of the scale India is 337 now you put
Speaker:the focus more on Australia again what do you find
Speaker:pretty high vaccination rates here now but an astonishing difference
Speaker:by state So out on the West Coast near Western
Speaker:Australia they're quite isolated it takes 4 hours by flight
Speaker:to get there from Sydney it's a big time zone
Speaker:difference as well and they practically have been able to
Speaker:prevent cases by lockdowns and travel bans and the travel
Speaker:Ban's have enabled them not to have lockdowns but then
Speaker:there is some freedom being infringed anyway the travel ban
Speaker:is an infringement federal government in Australia have been criticizing
Speaker:Tasmania and Western Australia for what they're doing is isolating
Speaker:themselves but their isolation has resulted in hardly any lockdowns
Speaker:people are freely able to move around and now the
Speaker:active cases in 2900 a day on average Victoria is
Speaker:almost 13,000 a day Western Australia is two not 2002
Speaker:active cases Tasmania is one new cases in Tasmania zero
Speaker:cases to date since the pandemic started 238 so even
Speaker:when you compare it on a per thousand population rate
Speaker:is very dramatically less than in other States but they
Speaker:have done so with another different kind of infringement but
Speaker:it's still I guess it's preferable to beating people on
Speaker:the street who are protesting living normally otherwise yeah two
Speaker:things I blame myself for I heard this story and
Speaker:I should have researched it and I will still do
Speaker:that but Dr Fauche himself visited this lab and US
Speaker:taxpayer money went to this lab for this COVID thing
Speaker:before it blew up, if you will so this is
Speaker:the Wuhan lab we're talking about.
Speaker:Yeah, the Wuhan lab.
Speaker:And I think that is just an abomination to be polite.
Speaker:Well, the United States government, we
Speaker:understand, funded the lab as well. Probably. Yes.
Speaker:Our text, arguably the purpose
Speaker:was to it's very ironical.
Speaker:It's what they call the gain of function research.
Speaker:So you actually make a virus a new form of virus,
Speaker:make it more virulent so that it will enable us to
Speaker:have vaccines and other treatments should a pandemic occur.
Speaker:But Ironically, that resulted in the pandemic occurring
Speaker:because there was a leak from the lab.
Speaker:Now, the benign story is the one
Speaker:of ignorance and therefore an inadvertent release.
Speaker:But the sinister story obviously
Speaker:is one that's a bioweapon. Yes.
Speaker:The vulnerability that I mentioned, even in the US,
Speaker:despite the constitutional protections and the bill arrives, the
Speaker:state of emergency powers to do all sorts of
Speaker:things that we are looking at today, prevent businesses
Speaker:from opening and lockdowns and prevent movement of people,
Speaker:lock up healthy people.
Speaker:In fact, that had never been done
Speaker:in human history before, except for those
Speaker:isolated incidents that we spoke about.
Speaker:Not so endemically.
Speaker:Well, if you wanted to make a bio weapon or
Speaker:you want to make a weapon to make the world
Speaker:compliant to kind of a new world order, this is
Speaker:the weapon one would think of because you can exploit
Speaker:the rights given to the States under the emergency powers.
Speaker:It will be that has happened.
Speaker:It's possible it's become rational
Speaker:to formulate conspiracy hypotheses.
Speaker:So the term conspiracy theory used to be
Speaker:used for a theory of a conspiracy.
Speaker:And the theory ranged from highly
Speaker:likely to mildly plausible to absurd.
Speaker:The whole range. Right.
Speaker:Whereas now it's become a demeaning term of some vehicles
Speaker:saying, well, I know the Earth is flat or the
Speaker:moon is made of cheese or some such wild thing.
Speaker:There is a Santa Claus. Yes.
Speaker:In fact, we are compelled, in fact, to
Speaker:formulate the hypothesis, to make sense of the
Speaker:world around us because we can see the
Speaker:establishment, the media are suppressing every alternate explanation
Speaker:of virtually anything and everything related to this,
Speaker:especially related to the pandemic.
Speaker:I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker:But let me ask you this.
Speaker:Are you familiar with claws or Claus? Schultz.
Speaker:Schultz. Schwarz.
Speaker:You mean the great recent World
Speaker:Economic Forum and the great recent. Yes.
Speaker:I'm wondering if these things are related.
Speaker:This virus is released and all of a sudden the west,
Speaker:instead of standing by its principles, becomes lap dogs to this
Speaker:30 year plan or 20 year plan of his.
Speaker:And again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but
Speaker:on the scale of possible, probably certain.
Speaker:It's possible.
Speaker:It's entirely possible.
Speaker:And I think it's entirely rational.
Speaker:On the Savvy Street, we discussed that
Speaker:actually video interview of David Harriman.
Speaker:You obviously know of him.
Speaker:I watched that interview. Yeah.
Speaker:And we got a range of conspiracy.
Speaker:We got a range of conspiracy hypotheses,
Speaker:as we call them, to avoid the
Speaker:term that's become so maligned conspiracy theory.
Speaker:And also the fact that from a scientific standpoint of
Speaker:theory is a much stronger body of interrelated data and
Speaker:evidence that has filed up into a theory that sometimes
Speaker:the theory is something like a fact, like theory of
Speaker:gravity is still called the theory, but it's a fact.
Speaker:The theory of evolution is a fact. Yes, true.
Speaker:It's still called a theory where the
Speaker:hypothesis is clearly a conjecture that is
Speaker:put up for observation and discussion.
Speaker:And ideally, even the proponent of that hypothesis
Speaker:should be open to it being wrong.
Speaker:But we haven't been able to examine
Speaker:the origin of the virus, the outcome.
Speaker:So it is entirely possible that it was released a
Speaker:bio weapon with some aims, or it is also possible.
Speaker:The second part is more than possible.
Speaker:I mean, Schwab himself says so
Speaker:that the pandemic is an opportunity.
Speaker:So even if it wasn't in Burton released by the lab,
Speaker:they've certainly taken advantage of it and that they more than
Speaker:readily admit so in print on their own website. Yes.
Speaker:And again, the other thing I wanted to
Speaker:stress for many years, I've lamented what I
Speaker:call the permanent bureaucracy, which exists to serve
Speaker:itself and not answer to the people.
Speaker:And I think the administrative state is
Speaker:that is what the administrative state is.
Speaker:It's this permanent bureaucracy that you
Speaker:can't monolith or Leviathan that just
Speaker:keeps growing and feeding itself.
Speaker:What do you think of that?
Speaker:It's becoming worldwide.
Speaker:Notice we call it the deep straightened definition.
Speaker:It includes academia, media, think tanks.
Speaker:Philanthropy has gone in that direction.
Speaker:And unfortunately, a lot of large corporates, a lot of
Speaker:money is pouring in, even from corporates buying into the
Speaker:whole climate scam and ID of other scams, because big
Speaker:corporations are assisted by this crony face estate.
Speaker:And that's where the philanthropy and big corporations
Speaker:is where the money is coming from.
Speaker:So we have this network, which is we call it
Speaker:deep state, and it's controlling pretty much all the mainstream
Speaker:media, maybe over 90% of academia, 90% of academia.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Over 90% of think tanks as well. Sure.
Speaker:And these kind of NGO type organizations.
Speaker:And they become so powerful.
Speaker:I mean, to digress from Colbert, but staying
Speaker:in Australia for a minute again, because we
Speaker:said that would be our focus.
Speaker:Okay, we had this interesting
Speaker:thing happened here in 2009.
Speaker:There was a gentleman by the name Tony Abbott.
Speaker:He was a politician.
Speaker:He was in regional Victoria.
Speaker:And he said all this climate thing is absolute crap.
Speaker:Those were the words.
Speaker:He is absolute crap.
Speaker:But in a private meeting some years
Speaker:later, in 2013, he became Prime Minister.
Speaker:And then all of a sudden, he was playing games.
Speaker:He was dog whistling to his constituency.
Speaker:But he could never confront the what you
Speaker:would call climate alarmism or what Candace De
Speaker:Russi in 2009 called climate Scientology.
Speaker:He could not confront climate Scientologists
Speaker:or the media supporting them directly.
Speaker:Same thing happened.
Speaker:A gentleman by the name Scott Morrison.
Speaker:He was Treasurer in 2017, February 4.
Speaker:And a half years ago, he bought
Speaker:a lump of coal into Parliament.
Speaker:He is not allowed to have a prompt,
Speaker:but he nevertheless brought it and showed it.
Speaker:And he said, don't be afraid, just call.
Speaker:And he accused the opposition of colon
Speaker:phobia, a pathological fear of coal.
Speaker:That is beautiful speech.
Speaker:But then when he becomes Prime
Speaker:Minister, he became Prime Minister recently.
Speaker:He went to Glasgow and once again what he
Speaker:has done is played games and agreed to some
Speaker:wishy washy targets instead of any head on confrontation.
Speaker:So even Donald Trump wasn't a complete exception
Speaker:because when he became President, he asked the
Speaker:Department of Energy for a list of people
Speaker:who attended the climate conferences, five star junkets.
Speaker:So they refused.
Speaker:The Department of Energy, the Department of Agriculture,
Speaker:NASA, everybody worked in unison against Trump.
Speaker:So yes, he pulled the US out of the
Speaker:Paris Accord, but he didn't confront the scam head
Speaker:on by saying this climate thing is a scam.
Speaker:Climate alarmism is a scam.
Speaker:And I am thinking the deep state is so powerful
Speaker:and the politicians depend on campaign money to such a
Speaker:large extent that within the party there is quite a
Speaker:bit of revolt and especially in parliamentary democracies, if a
Speaker:Prime Minister was to confront it, he would get a
Speaker:revolt internally and he would be deposed by his own
Speaker:party, which can happen.
Speaker:And of course, even in the US, while the Republican
Speaker:Party can't pose Trump for simply disagreeing with him on
Speaker:policy matters, there is still a very strong influence that
Speaker:the deep state has over what the President can do.
Speaker:And then, of course, we now in the panic.
Speaker:What happened was Trump refused to exercise some of
Speaker:the powers he did have, but he could not
Speaker:stop the respective States from exercising, which is the
Speaker:floor we have in the model of that has
Speaker:been exploited virtually perfectly by the great reset proponents.
Speaker:If indeed it's deliberate or even if it is
Speaker:an very vigorous opportunistic reaction to what has happened.
Speaker:Be nice.
Speaker:Like two points before we wrap up, we probably
Speaker:will come back to, as I would call it,
Speaker:environmentalists as the new religion here at the Secular
Speaker:Foxhole and talk more about that and cover that.
Speaker:And also, if you would like a cliffhanger for an upcoming
Speaker:and returning guest, what do you see as a solution?
Speaker:Or how could we spread the good
Speaker:word about your work and so on?
Speaker:What's going on down under thank you.
Speaker:Well, this is a very difficult question because we
Speaker:are stymied by law and we got to have
Speaker:law to protect ourselves from law, or rather we
Speaker:got to have an enshrined ride in the Constitution
Speaker:to protect ourselves from lawmakers making new laws.
Speaker:But even in the US, regulation circumvent that process so
Speaker:we're not able to amend or in this time, in
Speaker:our time, we're not able to amend Constitutions.
Speaker:So what we have to do is wake people up
Speaker:and hopefully that starts to spread the word and we
Speaker:let the right sort of people into office.
Speaker:But it's a long, hard struggle.
Speaker:I can see that.
Speaker:It's just definitely a long struggle.
Speaker:So much is against us, unfortunately.
Speaker:Thank you for the sentiment, Martin, but I
Speaker:don't have any kind of magical solution other
Speaker:than speak up while we can.
Speaker:And as sort of media that are not major
Speaker:media, we fly secular Foxhole and Savvy Street flies
Speaker:well under the radar with those that become big,
Speaker:like YouTube was alternate media when it first started.
Speaker:Right now it's been co opted into the deep state.
Speaker:So that would be the danger for media that become
Speaker:bigger as to where the money is coming from to
Speaker:make it bigger and how it's going to prevent itself
Speaker:from being co opted into the deep state.
Speaker:We have some ideas for Claire and myself.
Speaker:I mean, we are not there yet because we have to
Speaker:get the funds and get like a budget and support.
Speaker:But for example, one alternative could be Rumble.
Speaker:I've tested to upload one video where
Speaker:took some time and so on.
Speaker:But I'm looking at that Amy peak of
Speaker:she recently did that with Blair and I.
Speaker:We have this new segment, sometimes some good things, not
Speaker:a good thing, and some ending with some good things.
Speaker:And that's originated by Amy Pikov.
Speaker:And the latest live streaming she had,
Speaker:it was on a new segment, some
Speaker:positive things about treatment against diabetes.
Speaker:And then she said that it
Speaker:was live streaming located on Rumble.
Speaker:So that's something to look at for the future.
Speaker:But if you want to do live stream,
Speaker:you have to have a certain account and
Speaker:then you have to have funds for that.
Speaker:But I see if a market will work freely.
Speaker:We will see alternative.
Speaker:But it's good to, as you said, point out that
Speaker:how some alternative or some startups is emerging or morphed
Speaker:into this big tech that is not for free market.
Speaker:It's something else.
Speaker:And that's why all about covet things.
Speaker:If you wanted to post something on Facebook and
Speaker:they say, are you really sure that you want
Speaker:to post this kind of information with post?
Speaker:This is starting getting a bit scary.
Speaker:It's this big brother watching you over,
Speaker:but then you could vote with your
Speaker:wallet pocketbook and go somewhere, somewhere elsewhere.
Speaker:Rumble and Odyssey are, from what I've heard,
Speaker:probably the freest of the new competitors to
Speaker:YouTube and posting the most alternate narrative.
Speaker:I think that's true, yes.
Speaker:And that's why we continue with our podcast.
Speaker:We could be corrected and we could be
Speaker:having a discourse and debate and discussion.
Speaker:But I like it's pretty hard.
Speaker:Maybe you shouldn't say that out loud, but it's pretty
Speaker:hard to close down an RSS feed, you could be
Speaker:deplatformed, you could be stopped or picked out.
Speaker:But still, even real conspiracy fears is still
Speaker:out there because they have a saver RSS
Speaker:feed and I don't like them.
Speaker:But I'm for the freedom of expression also.
Speaker:But they have to take the consequences of what
Speaker:we are spreading and be responsible for that.
Speaker:But if you have an RSS feed
Speaker:and you could protect it pretty easily.
Speaker:And what we want to do in the
Speaker:future is to get support by fellow podcasters
Speaker:and listeners, by something called Podcasting 20 and
Speaker:that's initiative from folks at Podcast Index.org.
Speaker:And there is something called Satoshi, and
Speaker:that's like 100 million parts of Bitcoin.
Speaker:So it's a small amount, but then you
Speaker:could stream Satoshi's through by listening to podcasts
Speaker:if you use a Podcasting 20 application.
Speaker:So there I see it.
Speaker:But right now I think it's a couple
Speaker:of thousands of podcasters of like 4 million
Speaker:podcasts all over the world using this.
Speaker:But you could look in the Crystal ball.
Speaker:So in ten years time, when we talk again, fantastic.
Speaker:When you mentioned it yourself, I was about to call it
Speaker:the Bitcoin of sound or the Bitcoin of free expression.
Speaker:Is sound preserved in
Speaker:disaggregated leisure type entities.
Speaker:You're calling podcasts to point out the
Speaker:platform cannot be taken out, hopefully and
Speaker:cannot be prevented from being listened to.
Speaker:But one of the problems we've had is
Speaker:even where people have been going back to
Speaker:Pandemic have been protesting in Greece.
Speaker:They recently passed a law making
Speaker:vaccination compulsory for people about 60.
Speaker:And they've been in Australia, the protests, we met violence
Speaker:from the police, but where they weren't met with violence
Speaker:from the police in France and Germany, the nation state
Speaker:still went ahead as if the protest hadn't happened and
Speaker:legislated the way they wanted to.
Speaker:So despite the expression, the alternate media
Speaker:is simply not large enough to sway
Speaker:significant amount of opinion yet.
Speaker:And hopefully we will be some days.
Speaker:I know we will be.
Speaker:I want to end on a positive note, though, if I may.
Speaker:1 of my favorite movies of
Speaker:all time came out of Australia.
Speaker:It's called The Dish with Sam Neil.
Speaker:All right. I must have been a fan.
Speaker:I haven't seen it, but gone.
Speaker:It takes place in the 1960s when the United States
Speaker:put a satellite dish for NASA in this big sheep
Speaker:field in the middle of some Prairieland in Australia.
Speaker:And it's about the three guys that made
Speaker:this satellite station and the town around it.
Speaker:And it's a classic, feel good, wonderful film.
Speaker:So I highly recommend that to you and to our listeners.
Speaker:Anyway, we've been talking to Venice ColeHead Carr, who is
Speaker:always welcome to come to the show, and we thank
Speaker:him again for Manning the Foxhole with us today.
Speaker:Thank you for having me again. Yes.
Speaker:If you have any ending note or if you want
Speaker:to say where the listener could find you in cyberspace.
Speaker:You're more welcome. Thank you. Well, yeah.
Speaker:I hope listeners fund use the secular foxhole
Speaker:podcast and us savvy street by visiting our
Speaker:websites and at least keeping us alive.
Speaker:And ideally they were looking for major sponsors
Speaker:who take us to the next step where
Speaker:it's to fly under the radar.
Speaker:But we'll move it bigger.
Speaker:We dropped a few bombs by far.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:Throwing stones.
Speaker:And then hopefully we get some machine
Speaker:guns and then maybe we fly.
Speaker:We're not afraid to speak truth to power but
Speaker:we need a bigger platform, that's for sure.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:And as Blair knows without saying anything now
Speaker:I have some ideas and I've been talking
Speaker:with some interesting entrepreneurs about that so we
Speaker:will probably come back to that Vinay. Very good.
Speaker:Thank you. All right, sir.
Speaker:That's a wrap, I believe.
Speaker:Yes, it is. All right.